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Roman names and the world of "Conan"

  • Aug. 19th, 2008 at 4:13 PM
allaire: (miracles)
My gaming group decided to begin a new campaign under another game-master who also suggested a different system. So we left behind D&D 3rd Edition (that I've finally become accustomed to) and will start anew with "Conan the RPG". Argh.

I have a copy of the main rulebook, and let me tell you, it's confusing as hell.

Since I decided to stick to my decision to try any and all archetypes (from Ranger/Scout to Priest to... well, either Mage/Wizard or Warrior), I felt obliged to make my new character a soldier. "Conan" is a system in which magic users are kind of predisposed for becoming evil, and don't seem to be a) very common, or b) very powerful. No resurrection or healing spells, alas! That's going to hurt.

Anyway, I spent the better part of Sunday (and yesterday evening) trying to create a character, and part of that (the less impossible part, admittedly) was choosing a name for my soldier.

Said soldier is a pike-and-shield fighting Gunderman, and apparently Gundermen bear Roman names.

According to Wikipedia and other sources online, Roman names had three parts (the "tria nomina"), consisting of
  • a praenomen ("given name"),
  • a nomen ("gens or clan name"), and
  • a cognomen ("family name within a gens").
More details can be found following these links:

http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Römische_Namen
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liste_römischer_Familien
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liste_römischer_Cognomina
http://www.novaroma.org/wiki/Choosing_a_Roman_name
http://www.novaroma.org/nr/Cognomen

Anyway, I chose to name my Gunderman soldier "Marcus Cilnius Licinius", and his (late) wife (background! I hate coming up with background histories!) "Tita Curtia Cinna" "Terentia Flavilla" (edited due to [livejournal.com profile] temve's superior knowledge of Latin).

Oof. Now if dear Marcus only was more intelligent, he could learn a certain fighting style that would make him more effective.

My attribute rolls were rather good, but damn it, a "13" instead of a "12" would have been perfect. Drat.

What is dear Marcus to do once an enemy passes the range of his pike and tries to involve him in close combat? Drop his pike and run screaming? Play dead? I hate long melee weapons, especially when they're heavy enough to require two hands.

You'd better not die today, soldier.

By the way, I detest Hyboria and Aquilonia, and Conan's stupid Cimmeria, too. I'm bad at geography, and fictional geography is even worse. Gunderland isn't even named on the map, and I. Hate. Guessing!

edit (several hours later): Well, dear Marcus is still alive, but he's broke and unarmed, got trampled by a wild pig and is still laughing his ass off over his companions being pelted with fecal matter after they tried hunting down monkeys who, not very impressed with being shot at with stones from my companions' slingshots, decided to throw missiles back at their assailants. From giant rain-forest trees. Oh, did I forget to mention that we're marooned on a Caribbean island (or at least a reasonable facsimile thereof)? Eine Seefahrt, die ist lustig, eine Seefahrt, die ist schön...

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[identity profile] temve.livejournal.com wrote:
Aug. 19th, 2008 06:26 pm (UTC)
Um, sorry to but in here, but women with tria nomina are virtually unkown - typicaly, a Roman girl would simply bear the female version of her father's nomen, so if your Cilnius had a daughter, she'd simply be Cilnia. Sisters would occasionally be named Cilnia Maior and Cilnia Minor, or C. Secunda, Tertia etc. to avoid confusion.

Double names for women didn't really become common util the 2nd century AD when a slew of foreign-born empresses (Iulia Domna, Iulia Maesa etc.) tacked their given names on to the adopted Roman name of Iulia that tied them into the Imperial tradition.

Also, it may be counterintuitive but Cinna is an exclusively male name; just like Sulla and Vibenna etc. (look for the double consonant befoe th -a, that's a clue) it's of Etruscan origin where -a is a predominantly male ending and the girls ended in -i. Who says Latin is logical anyway?

So his late wife would have been known as Curtia and would probably have gone by a nickname in addition (anything cute ending in "-illa" maybe, or something that describes her such as a colour adjective. Curtia Nigra sounds lovely actually - does she have black hair?), but neither Tita nor Cinna are particularly authentic as Roman women's names.

Feel free to kick me now, or ask me questions :)
[identity profile] allaire.livejournal.com wrote:
Aug. 19th, 2008 10:12 pm (UTC)
Okay, I bow to your superior knowledge. *g*

I already kept hesitating over Marcus' late wife's name, because the resp. articles didn't address the issue of nomen and cognomen, but then simply assumed the same rules applied.

Damn.

I'd like to give her a name beginning with a "T", so if I have to pick a male nomen and give it a female ending, how about (sorted by preference):
  • Terentia,
  • Titinia,
  • Titia,
  • Tillia, or
  • Tullia?
As for the cognomen, "Nigra" sounds really nice, but unfortunately I picture her as a blonde or brunette. Should that be "Flavia" then?

So - no kicking, but begging for more information. :-)

~ allaire, prostrating herself at the feet of her queen of Latin
[identity profile] temve.livejournal.com wrote:
Aug. 20th, 2008 04:48 am (UTC)
Therentia Flavia is fine, although there is a very prominent Flavius family that rose to power around 70 AD and spawned several emperors, so after that she'd more likely to be a Terentia Flavilla to avoid looking like an impostor :)
[identity profile] allaire.livejournal.com wrote:
Aug. 20th, 2008 08:18 am (UTC)
"Terentia Flavilla" is perfect; thank you!

The made-up semi-Latin names we were given for the crew of the galley we'd booked passage on were - at least in a few cases - simply hilarious for our modern ears.

"Tranicus" and "Tarantus", indeed. *g*

I rather doubt these names even existed (did they?), but then, I guess that wasn't important to whoever wrote the supplement.

Still, drunk captain and sadistic first officer! Mutiny! Marooned! Caribbean island! Palm trees! Coconuts! Wild Pigs! Chittering monkeys!

:-)
[identity profile] temve.livejournal.com wrote:
Aug. 20th, 2008 03:21 pm (UTC)
Tranicus and Tarantus are completely made-up, although Taranis was a Celtic god, so maybe that's why he considered himself the boss :)

*Jack Sparrow voice* Why is the vinum always gone?
[identity profile] allaire.livejournal.com wrote:
Aug. 20th, 2008 10:14 pm (UTC)
Trust me, yesterday Jack Sparrow was lurking around every other corner in my brain. He and the parrot. *g*

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