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Jan. 19th, 2005

  • 6:18 PM
allaire: (forest)
I could simply kill the Deutsche Post (German mail) for two reasons that make me so angry I want to shout incoherently:

1. The Deutsche Post spent thousands of Euro to build so-called Packstationen (packing stations) all over Germany. So if you are unable, on a regular basis, to come to your post office during office hours, you can authorize the Deutsche Post to deliver/accept your packages at these stations, all automated and with a minimum of fuss.

Problem: Even if you haven't given such an authorization and aren't home when a package for you is being delivered, it is automatically taken to the Packstation, and you're supposed to collect it there. Which would be all nice and well... if it didn't happen to be winter and freezing cold, and your package didn't contain any sensitive electronics. I, for one, don't intend to let a DVD I bought freeze to death in sub-zero temperatures for days on end while I happen to be away for a few days.

Further problem: There's no one you can contact and complain to, and no one who'd agree to go back to the former status quo and deliver your packages to the (nice, warm, heated) post office instead.

2. The Deutsche Post branched off into banking a long time ago, called Postbank, and you used to do your transactions by filling out the money transfer form and sending it to your Postbank in a blue envelope provided by the bank that you could put into any mailbox of the Deutsche Post, anywhere in Germany. That has changed.

Problem: Today, you're allowed the awesome total of 12 (!) envelopes a year; any other set of 12 costs 6,60 Euro. You're supposed to either use the great new boxes in the post offices (where you can refrain from using an envelope), or to do your transactions online. But the boxes in the post offices are only accessible during office hours. Duh. And online banking is kind of risky if you don't use a firewall, isn't it?

Further problem: Once again, there's no one to complain to or to rectify the situation. Evidently, they're still glad to take your money for zero interest and zero costs (apart from the above, that is), but service... no, service is no longer important.

You're unhappy with them? Too bad for you. The Deutsche Post is now verrrrrrrrry important worldwide, and is no longer concerned with its puny German customers.

I could cheerfully throttle the whole bunch. Idiots. I guess I'll have to find a new bank. Fuck.

Comments

[identity profile] mabiana.livejournal.com wrote:
Jan. 19th, 2005 06:05 pm (UTC)
I'll hold them while you throttle. Although I really would have preferred them to bring my parcels to a Packstation instead of giving them to a neighbour who leaves them where they can be stolen.
[identity profile] allaire.livejournal.com wrote:
Jan. 19th, 2005 06:26 pm (UTC)
Yeah, the neighbor thing. I so know what you mean.

And I'll call you if I need to come back to your offer -- you'll hold them, I'll inflict grievous bodily harm. *eg*

I just wrote a very angy e-mail, unfortunately only concerning a). Hmpf.

Thanks for your X-mas message, by the way. It was the first thing I got, and it made me smile. :-)))
[identity profile] mabiana.livejournal.com wrote:
Jan. 19th, 2005 06:34 pm (UTC)
You're welcome. :-) And I see that you can ignore my comment about the email contact, you obviously know about it. ;-)
[identity profile] gwendolen.livejournal.com wrote:
Jan. 19th, 2005 09:04 pm (UTC)
Ot better yet, where the neighbour does the stealing. :-(
[identity profile] allaire.livejournal.com wrote:
Jan. 22nd, 2005 11:47 pm (UTC)
Gwen,

your neighbor sounds just like mine. :-(

Not that he's done so yet (although I suspect him of taking my missing TV Highlights magazines!), at least not that I could prove it. But I wouldn't be surprised at all if he decided to keep a package addressed to me that the mailman was stupid enough to give to him. He hates me, and trust me, that's mutual. ;-)
[identity profile] mabiana.livejournal.com wrote:
Jan. 19th, 2005 06:33 pm (UTC)
There's no one you can contact and complain to

Um... I assume you have discovered the "Kontakt"-Button on the bottom of their website (http://www.deutschepost.de/dpag?xmlFile=828)? It leads to a secure page with both phone number and email contact form. Not that that is likely to be of much help, I only just used it after the theft and asked if it is possible that they *always* take my mail back to the post-office if I'm not home and *never* give it to anyone else (and as they apparently can *always* bring it to a Packstation (alas there is none here), it can't be too complicated for the postman), but they just said it's in their terms of service that they will give the mail to a neighbour and if they sign for it, it's my problem.
[identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/_bettina_/ wrote:
Jan. 19th, 2005 07:09 pm (UTC)
At least in my home town they don't do the neighbor thing. They just take the package back to the post office and leave a notification in your mailbox. Sometimes, when the mailman is very lazy, they just put it in front of your door, which is also very risky. *grr* I'd rather pick it up at the post office.
[identity profile] allaire.livejournal.com wrote:
Jan. 22nd, 2005 11:51 pm (UTC)
Nope, called their service hotline who gave me an e-mail addy to contact (of the Packstation, that is). First, I got a mass-produced message praising the advantages of the Packstationen, then a "we'll note your complaint, but can't do anything to rectify the situation at the moment" message when I'd written back to complain about the idiocy of sending an answer clearly not even remotedly connected to the content of my first mail.

Duh. Hate them.

And it's in their bloody terms of service to give your mail to people who clearly don't intend to hand it over to its righful owner later on?! Yeah, that's the Deutsche Post indeed. You've just got to love them. *groan*
[identity profile] temve.livejournal.com wrote:
Jan. 19th, 2005 07:33 pm (UTC)
Ummm, that's interesting. Because I did give them authorisation to dump everything in my local Packstation when I'm out, and what do they do? They take it back to their DHL parcel delivery centre which is virtually impossible to get to without a car or an hour to spare, and refuse to deliver to the Packstation unless I actually have that put on the parcel as the delivery address (which play merry havoc with most online delivery servies as they won't accept that format of address).

Maybe we ought ot switch mailboxes?
[identity profile] allaire.livejournal.com wrote:
Jan. 22nd, 2005 11:55 pm (UTC)
Yeah, I've heard about that DHL parcel delivery centre myself. They took my computer there once when it was sent back to me after repairs, but thankfully I could convince them to deliver it to my door again the following day. Grrr.

unless I actually have that put on the parcel as the delivery address (which play merry havoc with most online delivery servies as they won't accept that format of address).

I didn't know that was even possible.

And I'm all for switching mailboxes! ;-P
[identity profile] gwendolen.livejournal.com wrote:
Jan. 19th, 2005 09:11 pm (UTC)
The nice thing about loving in a rather rural area are post-shops, open as long as the shop (usually 18:30 or 19) and open on Saturdays as well. Warm, heated and with very customer-oriented people. I recall many people complaining when the DP announced they would close the post-office and open a shop. I was ready to kiss someone.

As for banking. Hm, I use the Sparkasse and do almost everything online. Login is on a secure server and I don't have a firewall. Maybe I'm not cautious or careful enough but so far I had no problems except for my new ec-card that either was never mailed or disappeared in the post-nirvana. By now most banks demand fees when you want to do your banking with a person around though the Sparkasse offers you terminals within the Sparkasse (24-hour-service) where you can do your banking even at night and in some branches you can even put money into your account via the ATMs

One thing I like about the Sparkasse is that they have ATMs almost everywhere and no matter where in Germany I withdraw money, as long as it's Sparkasse I don't have to pay a fee.
[identity profile] allaire.livejournal.com wrote:
Jan. 23rd, 2005 12:00 am (UTC)
Hey, I like the post-shops, too! :-)

Since yesterday, I have a working firewall (Sygate Personal Firewall), and tried online banking today for the first time. Just to discover that they've already charged my account with 6,60 EUR for a second set of 'free' envelopes that I haven't gotten or even wanted (so far). If I get them next week, I'll give them back at the post office with a very direct letter.

The BB Bank, the SEB and the SpardaBank also offer free checking accounts, but they don't have any branches or ATMs (not even considering the cashpool they belong to!) close to my parents' home. So, no, no switching banks for now. Unfortunately.

Sparkassen are everywhere, but they are not free. Perhaps I have Scottish ancestors. *eg*

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