| 1975 | T4 | Marcus Wright is born (22 August 1975). |
| 1984 | T1 | Kyle Reese arrives in pre-apocalypse L.A. (12 May 1984). Sarah Connor meets him, sleeps with him (their son John is conceived), and loses him to a T-800 model 101 Terminator sent back in time to kill her. |
| 1985 | T2 | John Connor is born (28 February 1985). |
| 1994 | T3 | Sarah Connor develops leukemia. |
| 1995 | T2 | 10-year-old John Connor and his mother are on the run from a T-1000 Terminator sent back in time (08 June 1995) by SkyNet to kill John, the future leader of the human Resistance; the T-800 model 101 Terminator sent by future John Connor to protect his younger self succeeds in saving them and insists on destroying itself to prevent its technology from falling into the wrong hands. |
| 1997 | T1 | Judgment Day as first predicted (29 August 1997). |
| T3 | Sarah Connor dies of leukemia in Mexico and is cremated. | |
| 2003 | T4 | Marcus Wright is executed by lethal injection after signing his body over to Dr. Serena Kogan of Cyberdyne Systems. |
| 2004 | T3 | John Connor and Kate Brewster attempt to evade a T-X Terminator sent back in time by SkyNet; a T-850 model 101 Terminator sent back by the future Kate Connor protects them, but they fail to avert the post-poned Judgment Day (24 July 2004). |
| 2018 | T4 | The 'old' Resistance leaders are killed, Marcus Wright wakes in the world post-Judgment Day, searches for the truth about his second chance, and dies by giving his heart to a mortally wounded John Connor. Kate Connor is pregnant. |
| 2029 | T1 | John Connor has won a major victory against SkyNet which sends a T-800 model 101 Terminator back in time to kill Sarah Connor; John sends Kyle Reese back as well to protect his mother. |
| T2 | When the T-1000 also manages to use the time-travel technology, John Connor sends a reprogrammed T-800 model 101 Terminator after it in order to stop it. | |
| 2032 | T3 | On the day of the Resistance's final victory over the machines, SkyNet sends a T-X Terminator back in time to kill John Connor's future lieutenants in the Resistance. A T-850 model 101 Terminator kills John Connor, is reprogrammed by Kate Connor, and sent back in time in order to stop the T-X. |
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I've been wrestling with canon, too, especially the events of 2032. They're messing up my PLA-A-A-N!!!
I hate when that happens...
And the T-800 exist for the same time (as long as the Skynet factory the blew up wasn't the only one making them).
Anyway, in 2032, the T-800 and T-850 models are obsolete (And now I have Arnold Schwarzenegger's voice in my head, saying that very same thing. Damn. *g*)
Now if I could just figure out how to kill off Kate in 2019 while having a good explanation for the events of 2032 being told as they were in T3 and not creating a paradox...
The Kate that sends the T-800 back is a clone?
...
No idea where that came from.
If she died years earlier, then what would be a good explanation as to why the T-850 claimed to have been reprogrammed and sent back by her, of all people?
:::needs to germinate more:::
Thanks!
Use a paradox-free version of time travel. The Terminator-verse seems to work on the idea that if you go back from Future A to Past A you are able to make changes in Past A that actually change events in Future A. A closed timeline.
A far less paradoxfull and confusing way to deal with time travel is to say that by leaving Future A you are no longer able to affect it at all, ever, in any way. Future A continues along its path no matter what you in Past B do. It is impossible to travel back to Past A because in Past A no one ever DID travel back in time. You can only ever travel to a *new* past, which is created specifically by the act of you travelling back.
That would mean that every movie is an alternate time line to the ones previous to it, except Salvation which is presented as a direct continuation of the timeline in T3.
Long story short: If travelling back in time creates a new, paradox-free alternate time line, time travel is never confusing and you can kill your own grandfather without ceasing to exist.
Perhaps it's too late in the day for me, but I'm already confused. I worked on the assumption that all took place in the same timeline, and that events that were revealed to have happened in the later movies were already part of it (only no-one knew).
It might just be because I can't imagine a John Connor conceived without Kyle Reese being his father.
I. Hate. Paradoxa.
So much.
Your version sounds easier, but also like traveling back in time to, say, save someone you love can only ever save an alternate version of your beloved, because the other (your original) timeline is fixed and can never be changed. That's damned depressing.
So I'd be fine saving the alternate timeline version.
It is true that in a paradox-free Terminator universe the "original" John Connor's father couldn't have been Kyle Reese and Reese would have just been his best friend. But, once again, I'll sideslip my objection to that in order to save myself the time-travel headaches.
Ack. Need sleep. And less cartoon!signs of confusion.
I still manage to comfort myself with the thought that Sarah would have been unlikely to run off to Mexico after all the terminator-shootout-madness if she hadn't known what Kyle told her of the future. She'd have assumed it was just random weirdness, and then the photo wouldn't have been shot, and later given to Kyle by her son, and... damn. I'm confused again. Perhaps she would have run either way. Just to be safe. Damn you, James Cameron, for making my head explode.
The happy side to paradox-free time travel is that whenever Skynet sends back a Terminator to change the future, it's futile. Skynet is defeated forever in the timeline that the T1 Kyle Reese came back from and defeated forever again in the timeline that the TX and T-850 in T3 came back from. And I *think* Skynet was defeated in the timeline that the T-1000 came back from, but I'm not sure if the 1000 was sent back to stop Skynet being defeated.
It's just easier to deal with when you ignore all the paradoxes by saying that time travel creates new futures (hopefully better ones!) instead of changing one single future.
:::allaire's head explodes spectacularly over the keyboard:::