Dea Ex Machina, Dea Sub Iudicio (~ 273 KB)
Author: allaire mikháil
Fandom: The Dresden Files (TV-verse)
Pairing: Harry Dresden/Bob (aka Hrothbert of Bainbridge)
Rating: NC-17
Summary: He knew her by reputation. He had no idea that her arrival would change his world.
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47.445 words, crossover with Buffy the Vampire Slayer, secondary pairing: Willow Rosenberg/Kennedy, Harry POV, set post-S1 of The Dresden Files and post-S7 of Buffy (spoilers!).
The story notes (and yes, that's a first time, too) can be found here.
The story has also been uploaded to Twisting the Hellmouth, the Buffy/Angel crossover archive, and can be found here. Because of its rating, it only shows up after logging in or upon using the direct link. It is available as well at The Wonderful World of Make-Believe, at this location.
- Mood:
accomplished
- Music:"The Scarlet Pimpernel" (Original Broadway Cast Recording)
Comments
And don't forget...I still have request fic to write for you! I'll get there, I promise...
I won't get to e-mail you until the beginning of next week, I'm afraid - I'll have a busy weekend, plus I still need to clean my apartment to prepare for it!
Glad you liked it!
You win cookies! <3
Thanks! I tend to forget about Kennedy, too. Sadly, I saw no way to get rid of her without falling into the same trap as many writers on TtH who prefer to set their stories post- (a fictional) breakup of the Willow/Kennedy pairing.
She annoys me, but strangely enough, she wasn't all that hard to write. I still can't say I like her, but after "Dea...", at least my loathing has lessened.
Why, oh why, did Tara have to die?!
As for Bob's mindscape, the thought just popped into my head, fully-formed. Including the horses. *g*
So-- first. Your entire relationship with Harry and Bob is extremely touching-- from the very beginning.
I want all the things I tried to not even dream of in the last couple of years for they used to be impossible.
I want...
I bumped into Kennedy's back and received my share of her current glare. Oh. We'd arrived at my car
(i laughed out loud when i read this-- thoughts about Bob put me in a daze too, and i don't even have a chance with him!!)
I looked up into a pair of gray-green eyes full of unholy amusement and something else I couldn't name. "So you, ah, drool over me?"
I blushed a deep red and for a mad second contemplated suicide by fork.
You have a priceless way with internal monologue-- seriously, i almost spit coffee on my monitor. And then the discussion about Winefride is just achey-- *aches* I hurt for them both here. Although Bob's fears of relating are... *dies* :D
The plotline is fascinating. I am a big Buffy fan, although i've been out of it for a while, and I agree with
Right. But wait! There's more!
When we kissed, he smelled of aftershave, not perfume. The chest pressing against mine was undeniably male. No, I couldn't deny I was kissing a man. When he moaned, I knew I was kissing Bob, for even throaty as it was, I would have recognized that voice anywhere.
I love that you detailed this out-- so very important, so very gorgeous. I forget this-- the newness. Glad that you didn't, because it's incredibly sensual. I could quote the rest of the sex back at you *g* suffice to say, it was stunning. i had the whole deer in the headlights thing going on. You win at life! tenderness, hesitancy, and when Bob cried at the end of it all... i was a little shellhocked, too. Beautiful.
Your Harry!voice- Guh!
My uncle would be salivating about now.
I felt a little bit ridiculous stalking him, but I hadn't lied. I was hard, and if I didn't kiss him in the next few seconds, I was sure I'd fucking well die.
Yeah, it seems wizards are easy to domesticate. When they meet the right partner. This gave me all sorts of interesting images!!
Hell's Bells, I wanted to introduce him to Murphy and watch the speculation creep over her face. That plus Kirmani's discomfort would keep me entertained for weeks. *laughs* Oh, that would be so so much fun to write!
And Bob!Voice!
"Did I tell you to stop?" a sleep-roughened voice demanded irritably.
I love this line!
"No," he said firmly. "I will not leave a single button undone if it causes you to lose all control over your hands." Dom!Bob *smacksmack* :D
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I could go on and on... this is just amazing. A labor of love. Memming, obviously. I hope that you aren't burnt out and that you continue to write!! *glomp!hugs* *showers you with confetti*
love,
mender
I read it in one sitting and stayed up WAAAY too late to do so but i just couldn't put it down, you know what i mean?
Yes, I do. And wow, that's the first time one of my stories managed what usually those I read tend to do to me! *g*
You have a priceless way with internal monologue-- seriously, i almost spit coffee on my monitor.
Harry is pretty much a big dork. And a girl, too.
I tried to keep him as far away from the mush as I could, but he insisted on at least being allowed to be cute... ;-)
The plotline is fascinating. I am a big Buffy fan, although i've been out of it for a while, and I agree with luvmeanddespair-- it's nice to see them, and you work the story so well! Willow's magic is HELLa more powerful, in some ways, and your explanations are nothing short of brilliant. Raise the dead? Sure, we can do that. No body? Weelll, okay. Really really good stuff here! And, Giles is ♥
Thanks! For at least the last two months, I've been totally enthralled by BtVS-centric crossover fanfic, and that helped ressurect my love for the show that had waned a lot with the events of its last two seasons. Buffy's treatment of Spike can still make me foam at the mouth, so let's... let's move on.
As for Giles, he is a bit prejudiced, and once he makes up his mind, he knows no quarter. Of course, he also defends Buffy fiercely. I loved him more in the show's earlier seasons, but BtVS wouldn't be BtVS without him.
I love that you detailed this out-- so very important, so very gorgeous. I forget this-- the newness. Glad that you didn't, because it's incredibly sensual. I could quote the rest of the sex back at you *g* suffice to say, it was stunning. i had the whole deer in the headlights thing going on. You win at life! tenderness, hesitancy, and when Bob cried at the end of it all... i was a little shellhocked, too. Beautiful.
Thanks. :::blushes:::
It's so hard writing tasteful sex, so I detailed lots of touching and kind of skipped over the most graphic stuff.
I so wanted to write at least one chapter from Bob's point of view. I wanted to explain how he felt, how overwhelmed, how helpless, how much like a stranger in a strange land, but due to the set POV, I couldn't. I cursed it a lot, but Harry, while he wasn't able to witness everything, was there for the most important stuff. And - it helped Bob.
Your Harry!voice- Guh!
(...)
And Bob!Voice!
Hehe. ;-)
I hope that you aren't burnt out and that you continue to write!!
I am a bit burnt out at the moment (especially since I pretty much pushed everything but the story on the backburner, and I need to get caught up!), but I still have 1 (or is that 2?) plotbunnies nibbling at my brain. Damnit, I want to have confirmation that we'll get a second season already! That would be such a rush.
I'm so glad you commented. It really made my day.
If you need clarification on any of the Buffy background to this story, don't hesitate to ask me. I'll do my best to help. *g*
The charatures where all well rounded and I enjoyed how you brought Bob back from the dead and explained the story behind the cures.
I hope to see more of your work posted ^^
As for more fanfic by yours truly, I think I need a pause first, but then, who knows? *g*
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I adored this fic, for character, dialogue, romance... damn for everything but especially the way you captured Bob (no pun intended ;-)
Wow, I guess you couldn't resist and wait until the weekend... *g*
(Not that I ever can when faced with a long story. Usually my hours of sleep have to pay for it.)
Research is strangely addictive, isn't it? And it's so satisfying when the end product is as closely compliant to canon as one can make it.
And I pretty much made you incoherent. I'm so proud! ;-)
I adored this fic, for character, dialogue, romance... damn for everything but especially the way you captured Bob (no pun intended ;-)
I'm glad you liked it!
So yes I was a little incoherent. But it the main that was probably because you were so good at capturing Harry's retisence, thoughts feelings and fear and it's that emotional turmoil that the reader most identifies with... somehow.
And the weekend? Well it's the last Doctor Who in the Series...
Thanks! That was hard work, let me tell you, considering that all the characters, at at least one point of the story, wanted to play Captain Exposition. I'm glad the end result appears better to others than it looks to me!
And the weekend? Well it's the last Doctor Who in the Series...
Have fun with that! I don't watch it, but I hear enough from others who do. *g*
Let me tell you, seeing black smoke rise out of a paperback with a lurid cover and reform into the buttoned-up image of a man with widely dilated eyes and tears on his cheeks is deeply disquieting.
Who am I kidding? It's arousing as hell.
That was the point when I realized I loved you. srsly. *glomps and squees* LOVE YOU!!!!
On a more serious note, I wanted to make a few "intelligent" comments about your style... Loved Harry's voice, loved the characterizations, had a love/hate thing going for the few times Harry gets ahead of himself in the storyline, and totally loved the sex... Except that I think Bob would be a little less quick to go from "I love you Harry, but I've never even considered sex with a man" to "Fuck me now"... But it was still way hot, so I love it anyway. (I'm a whore, what can I say) Um.... Usually don't leave reviews this long, but your story was so long I figured I should make the effort... But I think the bit you "nailed" the best was really Harry's voice. Oh, and even though most of your monster of a fic takes place over only a few days, the plot still moved along with a good pace. The dialog and the details made it *totally* worth it. This one not only rates a mem, I'm copying it to my hard-drive. W00T!! *more hugs*
~Amira
P.S. ~ Hope you don't mind the "constructive criticism" - I save that stuff up for the fics that I really love so you should take it as a compliment that I even bothered. *is lazy*
P.P.S ~ The love-hate thing for Harry getting ahead of himself was mostly love because it's so Harry but a little hate 'cause I wanted to whap him on the head and tell him to get on with the story but I couldn't 'cause it's a story... very frustrating. *pokes Harry* Didn't you pay attention to Bob's lessons on creative writing? No wonder his hair turned white. Oh wait, it's been white for a millennia... nevermind
/rant
*g*
I totally understand that - hell, I stayed up late on Monday (okay, by then it was definitely Tuesday) in order to post this story. I just couldn't wait.
One of my favorite parts was definitely the bit about the romance novels... here it is: (...) That was the point when I realized I loved you. srsly. *glomps and squees* LOVE YOU!!!!
Thanks! :-)))
Robert Hewitt Wolfe mentioned somewhere on the Jim-Butcher.com forums that they had actually filmed a scene with Bob sticking his head into a book in order to read it, and I'm so unhappy that the moment got cut! Well, there's still the DVDs. Perhaps it'll end up on them in form of a deleted scene.
...had a love/hate thing going for the few times Harry gets ahead of himself in the storyline...
I usually write from a 3rd person's POV, so yeah, writing from Harry's point of view - a Harry who already knew how it was all going to end (Blame Jim Butcher for that! He started it!) wasn't an easy adjustment to make.
continued in part 2
...and totally loved the sex... Except that I think Bob would be a little less quick to go from "I love you Harry, but I've never even considered sex with a man" to "Fuck me now"...
Actually, I blame my research on that.
According to the multiple sides I browsed, at the times Bob was alive the Catholic Church hadn't yet damned homosexuality as severely as it would happen later. After the fall of the Roman Empire, Emperor Justinian's laws that had been passed in the 6th century, ordaining death by burning for the "sin against nature", were no longer upheld.
And until the 13th century, there were no laws against homosexual sex in Europe, although between 569 to 1008, the so-called "penitentials" (handbooks of penances) were introduced. They were not secular law and only reglemented the penance required of members of the Catholic Church who had committed any of the "sins of Sodom". The basic penance consisted of exclusion from the sacraments, self-mortification (though younger boys were beaten with rods at the hands of older clerics), fasting on bread and water on holy days (which included most days), and general discomfort. The Penitential of Theodore the Archbishop of Canterbury in 670 required 1 year for inter-femoral contact (penis between thighs); 3 years for all lesbian activity, undifferentiated; 7 to 15 years for anal intercourse; 7 to 22 years for fellatio; and, for comparison, 7 to 10 years for murder; 15 years for infanticide (reduced to 7 years if the mother was a pauper). If caught kissing, boys under the age of 20 were subject to 6 special fasts; 8 fasts if it was "licentious kissing"; 10 fasts if it was "kissing with emission"; more if it involved mutual masturbation; and much longer if the partners were over the age of 20. Sometimes the penance was greater for the insertor than for the receptor.
In 1051, Saint Peter Damian, a member of the circle of papal reformers, denounced homosexuality, especially among the clergy. Pope Leo IX., however, questioned the severity of the penances, but did not deny the condemnation itself.
All that changed with the Crusades. The Catholic Church proclaimed that sodomy was rife in the Islam, and used that claim to denounce its enemy and gain support in the kingdoms in Europe. Beginning in 1116, the same claim was then made against heretics like the Henricians, the Albigensians, and later the Knight Templars in 1307. The reasons behind that were more an interest in the wealth amassed by the order than a true revulsion against the male/male orgies they did most likely take part in.
Anyway, that change was felt everywhere, and between 1250 and 1300 homosexual sex turned from a sinful, if legal, practice into a criminal act punishable by death.
My Bob lived before 1066 (the Norman conquest of England). I decided to make 972 the year of his death, which means that during his lifetime, male/male sex used to be legal and more or less common. He might have experienced the introduction of the penitentials, but I doubt he was a very devoted Christian, and I see him as getting several offers once he came into a tavern to book a pallet for the night - two or more by women, and perhaps one by a man. Bob, oversexed as he is *g*, would have accepted the most attractive of the available women and not given much thought to the men. Not because the idea of homosexual sex disgusted him, but because he already had all he could ever wish for with a knowledgeable wench to warm his bedding.
Later, after being cursed, I think he would have been amused at the Church's crackdown on homosexuality, and even more amused whenever one of his "masters" turned out to be a stuck-up upholder of moral standards, and secretly recall the most shocking actions he had ever been a witness to, wishing he could detail them out loud in order to gross out one of the early Morningways.
So, no, I don't think Bob would have anything against homosexual sex, not morally and not personally. I think he'd value feelings far more than morals that never applied to him during his lifetime anyway.
(Pfft, that's the rest of the research I should have put into my story notes. I'll amend them later today. If you want to, check out A History of Homophobia 1, 2, 3, & 4, and Homosexuality in the Middle Ages.)
This one not only rates a mem, I'm copying it to my hard-drive. W00T!! *more hugs*
Thanks!!! I love feedback. Such a detailed one makes me really, really happy. :-)))
P.S. ~ Hope you don't mind the "constructive criticism" - I save that stuff up for the fics that I really love so you should take it as a compliment that I even bothered. *is lazy*
Don't worry, I am taking it as a compliment. *g*
P.S.: Sorry, I went a bit overboard with the research thing here. LJ had to cut me off twice. Eeep.
The ironic part is that I've been working on a DF/BTVS crossover for about a month or a month and a half myself, and only have about 12K words down. It's probably going to be pretty damn huge, too. *sigh* The future bits that are only written in my head bear a resemblance in some areas to certain elements of yours... GMTA, huh? *grin* I'm either going to have to re-work them or just put in a disclaimer that I did actually come up with them before you posted yours. :-P
Fantastic fic, and I hope I see more out of you!
As for the GMTA part, don't worry about it. Just mention in the notes that you came up with the stuff (and now I'm curious! *g*) independently of me, and that should do just fine.
Now I'm looking forward to your story - keep writing! :-)
I haven't found a lot of DF fic out there so it's a treat to run across one, especially when it's so written & thought out. Your 'Dresden' voice is a good mix of the TV verse with just a bit of the book verse to flesh it out (can't do a lot of 'fleshing' with only 12 eppies).
I hope you're planning on (or a rabid plot bunny attacks) another visit to your DF/BTVS verse. For some reason I keep wondering which of the Scoobies could knock Morgan for a loop ('TV' Morgan is much more flexable than 'book' Morgan).
I'm torn between Xander or Faith. I'd love watching him get all flustered.
Anyway, thanks for a great read.
I can't promise a sequel to this, but I have two other (non-crossover) story ideas. I guess we'll have to see.
As for Morgan encountering Faith, that would be priceless! Although it might be even more fun if it was Faith and Ancient Mai. *g*
~Ruby
I'm glad you liked it!
As for Bob's speech pattern, I was torn throughout the writing of the story. On the one hand, (my) Hrothbert of Bainbridge comes from the 10th century, and as such, yes, his speech would be formal. On the other hand, Bob must have traveled with one of his 'masters' to the Colonies, and from the colloquialisms he uses ("Any locker room accounting?") he has spent considerable time in the company of American speakers, especially, of course, Harry. His speech - at least in my story - is a curious mixture of both Old and New World. Deciding when what fit best was, at times, quite difficult.
Did it really work for you despite you not having any knowledge of Buffy? I simply wasn't able to look at it from a non-fan's point of view, and I dearly hope no part of the story ended up being confusing.
:-)))
I'll take all the (virtual) chocolate I can get, but no kittens (not even for poker), because mine would get jealous. *eg*
Glad you liked it!
Not bad at all!
My favorite scene, even though my heart was in my mouth through it, was definitely Bob's resurrection. CPR! I've never read it done that way before and I thought it made a lot of sense (well, as much as magic can) and was very dramatic.
Thank you for sharing!
Blah. I still love DEMDSI far, far too much. :::pets story:::